Pain | Episode 24

May 27, 2024

In this insightful and deeply empathetic episode of the Thrive Therapy Podcast, hosts Lauren, Colter, and Cayla delve into the complex emotion of pain. From personal vulnerabilities to professional insights, they explore the many facets of experiencing, understanding, and navigating through pain.

1. **Vulnerability and Misunderstanding:**

  - Lauren shares a personal story about feeling misunderstood in a conversation with her partner, leading to a realization that her emotional needs may not always be met.

  - Cayla empathizes with Lauren, acknowledging the disconnection that comes with feeling misunderstood.

2. **The Importance of Empathy:**

  - Colter emphasizes connecting with someone in pain through empathetic responses, without the urgency to fix or solve their problems.

  - The hosts practice empathetic responses through role play, focusing on validating and embodying the feelings shared by someone.

3. **Core Emotions and Disconnection:**

  - Discussion on the value of identifying core emotions to enhance understanding and support in relationships.

  - The hosts stress that naming and reflecting core emotions can pave the way for more profound empathy and connection.

4. **Experiencing and Processing Pain:**

  - Exploring how pain can be experienced in different degrees and how "stacking" pain can make it more challenging to manage.

  - The tendency to compare one's pain to others' (comparative suffering) and how it prevents addressing personal pain.

  - Acknowledging the aversion to pain when dealing with loss and the lowered capacity to support others in times of acute suffering.

5. **Physical vs. Emotional Pain:**

  - The parallels between handling physical and emotional pain, including adapting to limitations and seeking appropriate help.

  - The necessity of giving time for emotional healing and recognizing the impact of pain on daily functions and energy levels.

  - The challenge of returning to normal life after significant pain and the importance of creating space to process emotions.

6. **Theological Perspectives on Pain:**

  - Colter shares insights from his clinical mental health education and the theological challenges of reconciling an all-good, all-powerful God with the existence of pain.

7. **Grief and Pain Continuum:**

  - Differentiating between pain and grief, recognizing grief as a mix of emotions.

  - Comparing the stages of grief to different emotional states and understanding acceptance as part of the recovery from pain.

  - Discussing the continuum of pain from overwhelming suffering to avoidant behavior and how positivity can sometimes limit coping with pain.

8. **Personal Experiences:**

  - Personal reflections from the hosts on their experiences with pain and where they find themselves on the pain continuum.

  - Lauren introduces the concept of the "two arrows" of pain: the initial suffering and the additional suffering caused by ruminating and resisting the pain.

9. **Extended Impacts of Pain:**

  - How pain can extend beyond the initial loss, impacting future events and potential suffering.

The hosts wrap up by emphasizing the importance of leaning into and understanding pain and sadness. They also tease the next episode, which will focus on building relational intimacy.

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